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Brisbane Adams and Kimberly Taylor had been friends, rivals and potential love interests when they worked in the Minerva Theatre. Just as they were getting close to figuring each other out, the Minerva Theater shut down. As their friends scattered to the winds, Brisbane - now jobless and homeless - was left to fend for himself. The only person he could turn to was his friend, rival and potential love interest, Kimberly Taylor.

The two of them faced the world, both its victories and defeats, together... and cautiously waited to see who would be the one to make the first move - who would say it first...

You Say it First is the sequel to Unlike Minerva. You could start there if you're a completist. Or we've got a nice jumping-on point about halfway in, if you're in a hurry.

It ran from 2004 and concluded in 2013. We recommend starting at the beginning.

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03.05.2018 - Terrence Marks:
We've got a new webhost! Almost everything has been moved over. We've had to adjust most of the site code and upgrade from mysql to mysqli. I still need to fix a few more of the little automatic things. All of the user-accessible stuff really ought to work, I hope. Please let me know if it doesn't.

That's been our whole weekend. Isabel needs some time off. I'm sorry about the short notice. We'll be back on March 12th and we hope to see you then.

02.14.2018 - Isabel Marks:
Happy 14th everyone, have yourself a nice treat and an excellent day!

01.01.2018 - Terrence and Isabel Marks:
Hey everyone, first off, Happy New Year! We made it through another year. Hope 2018 is a great one for you all.

I have a few things to talk about today. First, we are discontinuing our Patreon. I thought about it for a while, but it's not a good fit for the two of us, with the price increasing controversy being the final straw for me. I understand and respect those that still use the site, but it's not a good fit for the two of us. So, instead, we'll be focusing on NamirDeiter.net from here on out. It may not have all the bells and whistles that Patreon did, but we'll try our best to make it the best bonus site we can. Thank you to everyone who supported us there! It was starting to become to mentally taxing for me to run it, which brings me to my next topic...

We've been through a lot of changes last year, some for the better, some not as great... but as we reflect on where we've been and where we're going... we've both realized we're kind of burnt out. Now, full disclosure, I'm always kind of burnt out, sometimes physically, sometimes mentally, most of the times, both. But when Terrence gets burnt out, we definitely have a problem... without my writer, who is building the kind of story I just cannot, I'm all kinds of screwed. So to give him some down time we're going to be changing the updating schedule for a while... hopefully just for the month, but as of right now, I am not putting a definite date on anything. So, for at least the month, the comic will be going to three days a week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) with sketches for the other two days a week (Tuesday and Thursday). Hopefully this will help us feel less overwhelmed with everything going on in our lives, and hopefully work on the site a bit. - Isabel

To summarize the Patreon controversy from last month, they announced a fee increase. More importantly, they pitched it as a way for creators to get a larger percentage of the donated money, by redefining both 'larger percentage' and 'donated money'. This was not cool. The first response, when it was brought up that this would seriously hurt smaller creators, was that they'd maybe prefer to concentrate on creators making larger, life-changing amounts of money, which tells us a lot about the company and where we stand with them. Patreon walked these changes back, but we cannot count on their interests aligning with ours in the long run and we'd rather they not be a larger part of our revenue stream. We are lucky that we have the ability to walk away from this tenuous alliance. We have our own donors-only site, NamirDeiter.net. I'd rather put the effort into making that better instead of worrying when the next shoe will drop. We would rather have more control over our comic and anything we make from it.

And hopefully the schedule change will let us work on the site a bit, update some pages, figure out why our Emergency Broadcat System didn't pick up the announcement last night. Or just rest and relax. That's good too. - Terrence

12.05.2017 - Terrence Marks:
Holiday cards are coming soon! This year's card will feature Nicole! If you want one, please email me with your address. If you enjoy the comic, we'll be glad to send you one. We'll be getting them printed real soon so please contact us by Friday.
Want to send us a card? We'd be thrilled to get it. Email me for the address - and be sure to send your address so we can send you one back.
So here are the rules:
If you contributed - either via Patreon or NamirDeiter.net - this year, you get a card (please make sure we have the correct address for you).
If you send us a card, you get a card.
If you ask, you get a card.
10.31.2017 - Isabel Marks:
Happy Halloween! Stay safe out there and have fun!

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You Say it First  is © Terrence Marks and Isabel Marks, 2004-2013.
You Say it First has been on the web since February 2004 concluded in January 2013.